Permanent Injunction

VidAngel Fans,


Thursday night, the original 2016 preliminary injunction against VidAngel was ruled “permanent” — but with legally questionable modifications (here’s the order and the ruling).  In January 2017, we shut down our old system and have never since used it to offer anyone’s content. Instead, we pioneered a new system, but never offered Disney’s content on it.  We advised the court that we had not used the old system in any way for more than 32 months and “unequivocally” committed never to use it again absent a change in the law. But the judge nevertheless issued the new injunction.


Perplexingly, the judge granted Disney’s unusual (and legally questionable) request to broaden the injunction to include “parents, affiliates and subsidiaries,” and did so without requiring even that Disney identify those additional entities.


As we have done in the past, we will proceed with the utmost caution. We are removing the titles that are seemingly subject to the injunction. Once again we don’t know for sure which ones are because of the vagueness of the ruling. However, we know ABC and Hulu are owned by Disney and HBO is owned by TimeWarner, which also owns Warner Bros. Late last night we also removed Castle Rock. We have asked the studios if there are more entities now protected by the new injunction and await their answer. 


In light of this development, might we suggest that now is the time to reach out to your senator and/or Congressional representative to urge that they support the bill to update the Family Movie Act to permit filtering of all movies?

We’re certain this comes as a blow to those who love ABC, HBO and Fox Searchlight. Let’s re-double our efforts to seek a solution! 



Neal Harmon


CEO, VidAngel




53 thoughts on “Permanent Injunction

    1. We did some more research. Castle rock entertainment and Turner were Fox subsidiaries. Disney also has ABC, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Touchstone, A&E, History Channel, Lifetime, Hulu (majority), National Geographic (73%), Lincoln Square Productions, and ESPN (80%). This is probably not exhaustive and so we asked the studios to let us know what else there is. We’ve flagged these studios as blocked.

    2. Can the President of the US do anything? Hopefully NOT an executive order but an actual bill that lets Vid Angel filter anything under the family movie act?

  1. This sucks! I was planning on signing up for the HBO Amazon channel to watch Game of Thrones soon. But I guess Warner doesn’t want my money. Not signing up now!

      1. There isn’t a ton of content in the last four episodes. There is still violence and language, and one sex scene that would probably make it in a pg-13 movie.

  2. Uhh, these power hungry monstrosities are seriously irritating. I was enjoying game of thrones through vidangel and no way in hell will I watch it without it!

    I’m going to rethink my Hulu subscription and I had planned on getting Disney plus. Thanks for nothing Disney, shame on you

    1. I would still consider getting disney plus because it has a bunch of classic movies and tv shows ,that do not have have all the SJW propaganda.and disney will see that data that people like the old classic stuff and will hopefully do more stuff like that.

  3. i still dont get why you guys were able to do HBO in the 1st place if they are under Warner, strange pick and choosy you could do GOT and Sabrina but not Westworld, but now they are all off limits. really hope this bill gets finalized soon this back and forth is getting old.

  4. This is crazy!! Stinking money hungry pricks that take away our freedom to choose. We also signed up for prime video just to just watch Game of Thrones through Vidangel and will now be cancelling prime.

  5. Wow. We are Disney World annual passholders. Their assault on decency and family values has gone on long enough! We will NOT be renewing our passes or giving them any more money. Walt would be ASHAMED!

  6. At risk of getting reamed in the comments I’m gonna side with the studios on this one. Filtering content is fine for personal use but when you start selling filtered content it is a basic copyright violation. Maybe VidAngel should use this as a shift to start producing original content.

    Instead of trying to figure out ways to watch content you don’t want to watch trying making content you do want to watch. My $0.02

    1. But Vidangel isn’t selling filtered content. They are selling/renting technology that filters content temporarily…as in they are not creating a permanent copy that is altered. We the consumer own or rent the movies and TV shows! Then we pay to have the technology filter it as we see fit (mute, fast forward, skip). TVGuardian was and is legal. Clearplay was and is legal. If they are then this should be too!

    2. Jared, Do you believe that Clearplay and TVGuardian are illegal? If so, what do you believe the Family Movie Act was for? If not, what do you believe is the difference between their solutions and the newer VidAngel streaming model that would make it copyright infringement?

    3. They are not selling filtered content. They are selling a service for individuals to filter content on their personal devices. And I find it highly hypocritical that Disney is freaking out over making something more viewer friendly when they alter the heck out of others’ work to fit their needs.

    4. The problem I have with this statement is that filtering content happens every day on TBS, TNT, and various other “pay for” media outlets. I don’t see the difference with what VidAngel is doing from what TBS, TNT, and various other outlets are doing in filtering movies/tv shows.

  7. I really don’t know why Disney would want to take down a business founded by a few caring people in Utah. I guess it’s cause their evil. I just have a couple of questions though. I know that there aren’t too many good films coming out lately. So I’ve got a couple of suggestions. Keep in mind, I’m not pushing this on anyone. If you’re actually busy getting more good movies on the site, then the movies I’m going to list below don’t have to be filtered. Once again, just suggestions. First suggestion, “Unplanned.” This film had just recently come on Amazon. It’s a film about a woman who fully supported abortion for 8 years and became one of the youngest Planned Parenthood directors in history. Until one day when she was called to the back to help with an abortion and saw the disturbing reality of what actually happens to the baby and ever since, became pro-life. The film is rated “R” and I was just wondering if it wouldn’t be too much trouble to make set filters for it. Another show I suggest getting is “Mystery Science Theater 3000.” It’s a funny show. But sometimes, it can be, well, PG-13. I can handle more of the sexual references. But I have younger siblings ages 10 and 11 who don’t need to watch stuff like that. If you could set filters for some of the episodes (and maybe the movie), I’d really appreciate it. Once again though, if you think it’s too much trouble, you don’t have get the following titles. I was just making a couple of suggestions cause of the scarcity of good films out there now. I’m sorry to hear about what happened with the injunction and I will be praying for you. I hope you can make people like Disney the importance of filtering and how much parents need it.

  8. Does this mean the Family Movie Clarification Act is not the only hope for VidAngel to filter these properties or is there an appeals process on this injunction?

  9. Talked to several admins for our WA state’s USRep & Senators to raise awareness of the Family Movie Act Clarification bill. They said its not introduced yet and will only have a few months left before it has to be re-introduced (in Dec. every bill is archived). Is Senator Lee going to do this soon? I guess in 2018 it was introduced and not much steam followed. :o(
    I’m all about updating the FMA! Several countries have already updated their DMCA/Copyright laws to meet with the times!! America needs to as well!!!

    Using AnyDVD on my legally purchased DVDs to then use Adobe Premiere to cut out the Fbombs should be totally legal! I don’t want my kiddos hearing that junk! If we don’t win I’m going to have to go back to hardly watching anything again! I remember before Clearplay was out, I didn’t watch anything! Its even worse now! Disney is now starting to add LGBT stuff to Toy Story. :o(

    1. its cool that ClearPlay was finally able to get more VUDU films filtered but i canceled them. while their streaming service is much better than the Blu-Ray player they cut way too much out. just sad a company thats been around for over 20 years still cant fine tune things. Vidangel can attest that im very picky on my filters even they drop the ball sometimes. most of the time i use the language filters and do the rest my self cus both companies skipp too much.

    1. unless its a fairly graphic PG-13 or R i normally dont use filters just depends. Ratings now a days dont give the whole picture .

  10. How is Castle Rock Entertainment connected to Disney? They are owned by Warner Media, which is owned by AT&T. I just saw a news article that Seinfeld is coming to Netflix – so it won’t be available for filtering because somehow they are connected to Disney?

  11. I wonder if it would be possible to get enough people to skip opening weekend for the final Star Wars installment to keep Disney from breaking the record or even matching episodes 7 & 8? That would at least get a lot of publicity even if it didn’t have a huge impact on Disney’s bottom line. Something to consider.

  12. I asked the Disney+ people if they will allow me to filter their content. Here is their response: “That specific information has not been released, but stay tuned to for additional information” So their current answer is “no”.

  13. Can someone explain to me how they are viewing this as copyright infringement? We are required to pay for the subscription. I have an Amazon HBO subscription. I AM PAYING THEM. why are they concerned with how I filter the content they’re already providing me? I canceled that subscription since they did that. Now, I am not paying them. They are costing themselves money. It makes NO sense to me.

  14. Why can’t you just sell the rights to your filtering technology to your clients for a monthly fee and let us filter our movies? This is getting ridiculous.

    1. People have suggested that we “pack it in” for many years and yet we’re still fighting. I realize that the chances of passing a law are small, but the original Family Movie Act happened in a bi-partisan way so it has been done. We continue to seek for justice in the courts and grow our original content business. So there are multiple reasons to hold to hope rather than give into despair 🙂

      Even if we lost long term, we still believe the fight was worth fighting.

      1. I’ve sent emails to Rep. Ben McAdams, Rep. John Curtis, and Sen. Mike Lee. I also hand delivered a letter to Sen. Mitt Romney at a town hall meeting.

        Interestingly enough all of the Co-Sponsors of the Senate bill from 2005 are still serving in the Senate. There is also one of the Co-Sponsors from the House now serving in the Senate. I’d imagine they would also be likely to support an update to the bill they helped pass.

        Sen. Feinstein, Dianne [D-CA] (202) 224-2934
        Sen. Alexander, Lamar [R-TN] (202) 224-4944
        Sen. Blackburn, Marsha [R-TN] (202) 224-4944
        Sen. Cornyn, John [R-TX] (202) 224-2934
        Sen. Leahy, Patrick J. [D-VT] (202) 224-4242

        Let us know if we can do anything else to help. We’re rooting for you!

      2. That is not the only hope. Actually, the company would have several other options. The licensing out of protected technology to other industries or non-competitive industries could be a huge game changer (there is one example). The current UI for both VidAngel and The Chosen on Smart TV, Android, IOS, and Chrome are not straightforward with their ePOS, Gifting to specific individuals, and the setup process and account profile structures need work. I am actually seeing a few other ways to achieve a positive outcome, aside from being sucked up in a M&A style scenario, that could actually transition this company into a much larger entity. Read through past 2 filings and it is not balanced in messaging as is the public site. Despite requirements, there needs to be a better response that portrays outcomes closer to reality. Looking forward to enjoying this service for a long time!

        1. Thanks for the comment Shane.

          To your other point, our systems do need work. We could improve much faster if the industry worked with us rather than fight us, but we push forward anyway. We are constantly improving and we’re working on major changes for the better now.

          I agree with you that there are several options. And we most definitely plan to be around for a long time.

  15. Is there any update on the legal side of things? Will there be any hope that VidAngel will be able to connect to channels like Disney+ or the Upcoming HBOMAX? HBOMAX is a big one for me. I’m looking forward to it, but I don’t think it will be worth subscribing if I can’t filter the content through VidAngel! Please tell me work is still being done in that direction!

  16. I’m really disappointed in these companies who do not care about modesty I have noticed the shows that are filtered makes the series/movies more interesting. Do they not see that they ruin these movies/series with pornography!

  17. I’ve been boycotting Disney for over two decades and there is no reason to stop. Disney has continued to ruin ageless, classic stories, and purchase franchises and squeeze them for every penny.
    As far as the garbage that comes out of Sodom and Gomorrah, California I don’t have much use for that dumpster fire either. If you want to support the clean whole presentation of entertainment then I urge you to join me and millions of other Americans in saying no to the filth from California entering our homes.
    Remember one depraved man’s art is another hundred million’s filth.

  18. I don’t understand why Disney & co. wouldn’t have wanted to work out a deal to allow for their previous works to make them a little chunk of revenue, even though many of those films are way past any significant revenue gaining phase… it’s a simple formula of these companies making money through the work of others, while not having to focus but a mimimum of their own resources in making what basically amounts to ‘free’ corporate monies. It doesn’t make sense to turn down such an easy revenue stream, unless they started an editing service themselves. It makes me better see that their protests are sourced, not from their own greedily disjointed hearts, but from the hearts and wills of a spiritually satanic nation that seeks to destroy the morality, love, & wisdom of our great Maker.

  19. Doesn’t Disney take other people’s stories & alter them to fit Disney’s narration? Isn’t that what they are saying VidAngel can’t do? Is it just me or does the hypocrisy of their actions belie a more sinister intent to protect the devilish deviousness of their master sorcerer?

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